Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 10/10/2015)

Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/8/2015)

Sheik said:
Do not make items easy to get just because people are whining. This is phantasy star, not monster hunter kids. It's SUPPOSED to be hard to get things. My only gripe was the one player nerf (and it was minor), not with how hard items are to find.

Seriously, stop whining about schthack server. Schthack's server admins went around, nerfing items and making pay to win items (Which was disgusting). Can't find an item and need to cheat? No, just learn to play challenge mode scrubs. You can trade away s-rank weapons for the are stuff you want. Find something like a heaven's striker with a good hit %, I got a TON of stuff for one I found.

Point is learn to trade and work the economy. Does this forum have a trade section yet? If not I suggest adding one to stop the whining.
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#1: Not everyone enjoys playing just Phantasy Treasure Hunt. Playing PSO for the rare hunts is fine, but it should not be the only way to play, and that choice is totally dependent on the availability of the items.

#2: You could never trade S-Rank weapons for the real, top tier end game gear.

#3: You found a hit Heaven Striker? Good for you. Most of the server never found one legitimately.

#4: There is only so much trading can accomplish. Certain top end items only have relative trade value to other top end items. As nice as V101, S-Ranks, custom mags, and photon drops are, the players are not idiots. If an item like a high hit Heaven Striker is being traded, it is usually for something equally hard to get unless said player already has most of the desired major gear, and this is not currently and will not be for a while the status quo. Playing the market only gets you so far, and this is why most people on servers like Schthack only got places legitimately when overpowered event items were dropped and then made unavailable.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/8/2015)


#1: Not everyone enjoys playing just Phantasy Treasure Hunt. Playing PSO for the rare hunts is fine, but it should not be the only way to play, and that choice is totally dependent on the availability of the items.

1) You're playing the wwwwrroonngggg game. PSO = PTH.

#2: You could never trade S-Rank weapons for the real, top tier end game gear.

2) You could trade multiple S-ranks for top tier gear. I auctioned off my heaven striker for 3 s-ranks and a few other decent goodies.

#3: You found a hit Heaven Striker? Good for you. Most of the server never found one legitimately.

3) And that's why we had the trade section in the forum that required proof.

#4: There is only so much trading can accomplish. Certain top end items only have relative trade value to other top end items. As nice as V101, S-Ranks, custom mags, and photon drops are, the players are not idiots. If an item like a high hit Heaven Striker is being traded, it is usually for something equally hard to get unless said player already has most of the desired major gear, and this is not currently and will not be for a while the status quo. Playing the market only gets you so far, and this is why most people on servers like Schthack only got places legitimately when overpowered event items were dropped and then made unavailable.

4) Nugz went around and spread the cheat engine as revenge against schthack. People cheat in every game. Don't blame the hard to get items. That's just phantasy star. Don't like it? play another game.[/quote]
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/8/2015)

Sheik said:
#1: Not everyone enjoys playing just Phantasy Treasure Hunt. Playing PSO for the rare hunts is fine, but it should not be the only way to play, and that choice is totally dependent on the availability of the items.
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It isn't. Buy a 50% Hit Charge Vulcan from the shop, and you've just gotten a weapon for practically no effort that outclasses at least 50% of the rare weapons in the game. Rares aren't necessary for playing PSO.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/8/2015)

When ahead and changed from percents to fractionals on the drop chart. Also, boosted Del Rappy drop rates a bit.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/12/2015)

Updated charts with PSO2 drop style rates when hovering over fractions. Percents for all modes are also visible on the tool tip.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/12/2015)

falkenjeff said:
Why did Whitill get its Red Ring nerfed, but not the other IDs?
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Going to just cut and paste something I sent to someone else who PM'd me about this:

Feel free to quit. It's not like you can't still get a Red Ring.

Every other section ID has the same 1/64 drop rate for their Falz or Olga Flow drop in Ultimate mode. There was no reason Whitill should have had anything better than that. That was obviously a mistake made by SEGA.

Episode 1 & 2 never dropped this item even though it was in the data, Falz and Flow had no drop rate for Ultimate mode in Episode 1 & 2. The actual allowing of the Red Ring to drop was done by SEGA during PSO BB. However, we still never had the drop rate files for PSO BB's updated Episode 1 & 2 content and were using the broken GC file. We simply just gave Falz and Flow a 100% DAR but never changed the rare drop rate data.

Since now they drop their items, Whitill should have been corrected but hadn't been by me. Now Whitill has been corrected.

If you really made a character just for one item, that's sad. Once you got that item then what? You don't play the character anymore?

My apologies, but I don't really feel sad for you.
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Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/12/2015)

I always thought they gave Whitill a better drop rate for RR because in the Story, Rico was a Whitill.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/12/2015)

EvilMag said:
I always thought they gave Whitill a better drop rate for RR because in the Story, Rico was a Whitill.
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Was just about to say the same thing. It makes sense since whitill also finds ricos glasses and ricos earrings from ruins.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/12/2015)

falkenjeff said:
Sodaboy said:
If you really made a character just for one item, that's sad. Once you got that item then what? You don't play the character anymore?
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Hunt the item more to find a max stat one and/or sell them. Play with friends who have other IDs. etc
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Red Ring is always 150 DFP and 232 EVP. There are no variable stats on it.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/12/2015)

EvilMag said:
I always thought they gave Whitill a better drop rate for RR because in the Story, Rico was a Whitill.
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I think you guys are misunderstanding. You can't consider the old rate an official rate. Like I just said, the old rate was from the PSO Gamecube file in where only the rare rate was defined. Those bosses had a DAR of 0, meaning they never dropped anything, effectively making their rare rate 0 as well.

This puts us back in the same position as the Episode 4 rare item drop rates that no one knew, because the bosses were given an official rare rate after the drops were allowed to drop on PSO Blue Burst. No one could tell you what the official drop rate was then because no one had access to the server data.

Therefore, whatever silly stories you want to use to justify a non-authentic rate, are invalid.

You could even call the drop rates in the PSO GC file for Falz and Flow as "junk data", since it was never used.

It could also be said that the rates the bosses have set now on Ephinea are much higher than what the official rates were for the bosses on PSOBB once they added Red Ring, PGF, etc. to the mix to be dropped. We don't know.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/12/2015)

It is not a SCHTServ change, it should be dropping with variable stats. It even says so on the JP wiki here: http://puu.sh/kc4iL/962649eeb8.png

(130+85+20 = 232 DFP, 212+25+20 = 257 EVP)

If they're not dropping with variable stats, there is an issue.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/12/2015)

The Red Ring will drop with variable stats on this server.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/12/2015)

My apologies for stating that Red Ring has no variable stats on this server. I was basing that statement off of reports I had been given by players. This means that I can hunt for a max DFP Red Ring for my HUcast now. :mrgreen:

I believe Red Ring drop rates for all ID's will stay the same at 1/64.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/12/2015)

Actually, I changed Whitill again, slightly. There, how's that for compromise, Jeff?
 
No, I got the file from NDW, that was entirely an accident, I guess. I'll change it. =P
 
What exactly did the update do today? New drops or just different rates?
 
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