Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 10/10/2015)

Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

camel said:
we're only asking you to be reasonable with drops, the chances of getting a hit heaven striker right now is basically something like 1/infinity.
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yyyyyes?

heaven striker's a pretty high tier item, high tier items with hit are supposed to be extremely hard to come by. how long have you played this game for?

why are people whining about moderate+ difficulty finds in this game? it's PSO, guys... I get it if you're used to joining an established server and having god tier stuff practically handed to you either by other players or better drop rates, but this server isn't meant for you to immediately rush the gear you've had elsewhere. :|
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

You'll be fine for the V101.

Just comparing it's drop rate to Viridia's Episode I & II drops, the V101 is still less rare than an Agito from Gigobooma, a Yasha from Guil Shark, a Devil Battle from Dubchich, a Heaven Punisher from Sinow Gold (lol), a Viridia Card from Canadine, a Lavis Cannon from Chaos Sorcerer, a Luminous Field from Dark Gunner, a Scared Cloth from Bulclaw, a Cure/Poison from Poison Lily, a God/Arm from Hidoom, a Brightness Circle from Chaos Sorcerer (EP2), an Electro Frame from Zol Gibbon, a Maser Beam from Recon, an Agito from Sinow Zoa, a Psycho Wand from Delbiter (lol), a Nei's Claw from Ill Gill, and a Book of Hitogata from Del Lily.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

Sodaboy said:
You'll be fine for the V101.

Just comparing it's drop rate to Viridia's Episode I & II drops, the V101 is still less rare than an Agito from Gigobooma, a Yasha from Guil Shark, a Devil Battle from Dubchich, a Heaven Punisher from Sinow Gold (lol), a Viridia Card from Canadine, a Lavis Cannon from Chaos Sorcerer, a Luminous Field from Dark Gunner, a Scared Cloth from Bulclaw, a Cure/Poison from Poison Lily, a God/Arm from Hidoom, a Brightness Circle from Chaos Sorcerer (EP2), an Electro Frame from Zol Gibbon, a Maser Beam from Recon, an Agito from Sinow Zoa, a Psycho Wand from Delbiter (lol), a Nei's Claw from Ill Gill, and a Book of Hitogata from Del Lily.
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everyone was so happy and now you just do stuff like this, with what reasoning?
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

If anything, you should either make a poll for some kind of input for a final drop chart, or you should spend a few months changing the numbers behind the scenes without publishing anything until you're totally happy with everything (i.e. you can look at the chart a few weeks since your last change and no longer find anything that you dislike and want to change again) and then release a final chart that you promise to never edit, because having the drops be a constantly moving target is far worse than any individual rate being bad or good, especially since players might base their class and Section ID decisions on one chart, only to have their plans ruined by a surprise rate change a few weeks down the road.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

i think we should have a poll, sodaboy. whether to revert to old rates or stick with the new ones. like the rr/pgf one.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

Aleron Ives said:
If anything, you should either make a poll for some kind of input for a final drop chart, or you should spend a few months changing the numbers behind the scenes without publishing anything until you're totally happy with everything (i.e. you can look at the chart a few weeks since your last change and no longer find anything that you dislike and want to change again) and then release a final chart that you promise to never edit, because having the drops be a constantly moving target is far worse than any individual rate being bad or good, especially since players might base their class and Section ID decisions on one chart, only to have their plans ruined by a surprise rate change a few weeks down the road.
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+1 :ugeek:
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

I'm never reverting to the old rates, poll or not.

The last rates I kind of did on the fly without really checking what the items were, which resulted in a lot of items dropping more often than they should.

The new rates were generated by an algorithm using the star value of the items and this chart will stay this way for a while. (At least a month or two, while I log drop data, though I honestly don't expect the chart to change anymore for real.)

I know some people may cry about some of the rates on their favorite items, but it is what it is.

There will be other times where drop rates will increase due to events and what not, though, so, don't get your panties all in a twist.

If you could have everything you wanted right when you wanted it with little to no effort, there would be no reason to play the game after you've got everything other than to just show off to your friends.

As I said, part of PSO is the hunt, and when you do finally find the item you want, getting that feeling of achievement.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

Villain said:
camel said:
u hunted the players out of ur server. im done
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Meh, I can't save them all.
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Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

Sodaboy said:
The new rates were generated by an algorithm using the star value of the items and this chart will stay this way for a while.
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Considering the star system is almost totally arbitrary and often ranks useless joke items above useful serious ones, that doesn't sound like a very fair way to determine the rarity of drops.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

I for one welcome the ever changing drop rates that get nerfed further changing the end goal post a little more. I lok forward to heaven striker being 1/201 like the glory days.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

Aleron Ives said:
Considering the star system is almost totally arbitrary and often ranks useless joke items above useful serious ones, that doesn't sound like a very fair way to determine the rarity of drops.
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rarity =/= usefulness though
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

Instead of calling an items drop rate, going to have to start saying dropped rate.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

Sodaboy said:
If you could have everything you wanted right when you wanted it with little to no effort, there would be no reason to play the game after you've got everything other than to just show off to your friends.
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...or you could not think like that and play the quests with your awesome gear, which is what most TA players enjoy doing.

Unfortunately the only character worth TAing with here is RAcast.

Edit: Lestat smells.
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

Ulevo said:
Sodaboy said:
If you could have everything you wanted right when you wanted it with little to no effort, there would be no reason to play the game after you've got everything other than to just show off to your friends.
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...or you could not think like that and play the quests with your awesome gear, which is what most TA players enjoy doing.

Unfortunately the only character worth TAing with here is RAcast.

Edit: Lestat smells.
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I for one welcome using charge arms 50 hit, charge vulcans 50 hit, hell needle and rifle, cannon rouge until the end of time. So exciting!
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

Ulevo said:
Sodaboy said:
If you could have everything you wanted right when you wanted it with little to no effort, there would be no reason to play the game after you've got everything other than to just show off to your friends.
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...or you could not think like that and play the quests with your awesome gear, which is what most TA players enjoy doing.

Unfortunately the only character worth TAing with here is RAcast.

Edit: Lestat smells.
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Hes stubborn, not like he ever played, I think.
You smell too, Ulevo. 8-)
 
Re: Ephinea Drop Chart (Updated: 9/4/2015)

I'm not going to say I looked over the rates thoroughly but star value sounds dicey. Granted, pretty much anything done resembling how Sonic Team did it will not make Camel-kun or Ulevo-chan happy. Play the casual-oriented server if you want to fast track the PSO experience for TA.

Weird because V101 doesn't look that bad considering how it's basically one of the primary end game units. I've seen enough Tripolics drop from random Seabed games to know it. I'm ultimately worried/bothered by 14% Heaven Striker/Daylight Scar/BOVN from a rare boss when you want to hunt these with percents. imo should match the more reasonable Lame D Argent, which is also an important item. (well nobody would probably care about BOVN tho)

pls dont disown me
 
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