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This is not end game hp, this is just on hp gains as you level to get an idea of how long it will take to live from the following attacks:

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9 numbers to look at:
1. 451 to live from vh dark falz 3's slap attack
2. 721 to live from ultimate dorphan charge attack
3. 813 to live from ultimate dark falz 3's slap attack
4. 900 just to live from the more common gi gue butt bomb. You can also take Epilison's fire bomb with 40 fire resist
5. 950 to live from ultimate shambertin's laser cannon attack
6. 1101 to live from divine punishment from Olga Flow (no luck if 2 or 3 hit you though)
7. 1151 because after 125 hp mats they'll have 1401 hp and can live from a cannon to the face from a bringer or 2x falz shot
8. 1351 because with 125 hp mats you can live from the following:
9. 1601 because that is the hardest hitting attack in the game and if you can take that you can take anything

1st place overall Hucast
1. At level 58 he will be able to live from Dark Falz 3's slap attack w/o any hp mats given to him.
2. 98
3. 107
4. 115
5. 118
6. 130
7. 134
8. 151
9. 178 *has the most hp til 165 and has the 2nd most hp til 178 and still ends up in 3rd.

2nd place overall Racast
1. 75
2. 107 *has passed hucaseal and hunewearl by this point
3. 114 *has passed Humar just now in hp
4. 121
5. 123
6. 134
7. 138
8. 153
9. 172 *passes hucast by 165

3rd place overall Racaseal
1. 75
2. 108
3. 117
4. 124 *beats Humar in hp by 124
5. 128
6. 136
7. 144
8. 159
9. 178 *catches up to Hucast and starts to beat him here

4th place overall Humar
1. 63
2. 103
3. 115
4. 125
5. 131
6. 151
7. 160
8. 192
9. N/A but can be done with at least 91 HP mats

5th place overall Ramar
1. 76
2. 112 *passes ramarl and fomarl by now.
3. 122 *passes hucaseal and hunewearl by this point
4. 127
5. 137
6. 153
7. 159 *passes humar after level 155
8. 181
9. N/A but can be done with at least 41 hp mats

6th place overall Hucaseal
1. 66
2. 111
3. 123
4. 134
5. 140
6. 161
7. 168
8. 196
9. N/A but can be done with 111 hp mats

7th place overall Hunewearl
1. 66
2. 111
3. 125
4. 136
5. 142
6. 165
7. 173
8. N/A, max hp is 1308
9. N/A

8th place tie overall Ramarl
1. 72
2. 117
3. 130
4. 142
5. 148
6. 171
7. 178
8. N/A, max hp is 1315
9. N/A

8th place tie overall Fomarl
1. 74
2. 117
3. 131 (one hp is all that is needed to live from this)
4. 142
5. 148
6. 171
7. 179 *stops tying with or even beating Ramarl's hp a bit at times here.
8. N/A, max hp is 1273
9. N/A

10th place overall Fonewn
1. 79
2. 121
3. 134
4. 145
5. 152
6. 178
7. 187
8. N/A, max hp is 1232
9. N/A

11th place overall Fonewearl
1. 87 *passes fomar around this point and only loses the gain after 188 or so
2. 123
3. 140
4. 153
5. 161
6. 190
7. N/A max hp is 1148
8. N/A
9. N/A

12th place overall Fomar
1. 87
2. 131
3. 146
4. 158
5. 166
6. 188 *only starts to overtake Fonewearl here.
7. 197
8. N/A, max hp is 1175
9. N/A

Level needed to reach 1001 hp and be open to Garanz ep1 missile (ep2 missiles are covered with number 5...those missiles do less damage than ep1's)
Hucast: 123
Racast: 128
Racaseal: 132
Humar: 137
Ramar: 143
Hucaseal: 147
Hunewearl: 149
Ramarl: 157
Fomarl: 155
Fonewn: 161
Fonewearl: 171
Fomar: 174
 
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Wasn't sure on what to really want to cover but these. Most of the other fixed damage stuff doesn't seem as hard to avoid as stuff like the fu laser, falz's bitch slap, and dorphan's train wreak. Though I wouldn't mind adding some stuff I need to find that old info page on fixed hp attacks 1st.

Than again Olga's god punishment does 990 damage (if only 1 hits).
 
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Can you add estimated grants damage from falz 3? With 0 ELT grants will kill you even though you had enough HP to survive the slap.

On second thought this might be true on hard mode but not vh. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 
I believe Ultimate Dark Bringer's charge shot does like 1400? I rem it being really really high like 1200-1400 or so. Some one would correct me on that one lol.
 
it does do 1400, only class in the game unable to live from it is foney
 
Raikiri said:
Does h/hp gives more a bit more hp than the max?
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Yes. There's not really a "hard cap" on HP or TP like with the other stats, so the true Max HP is TECHNICALLY:

Base HP at level 200 + 125 HP mats + 4 Heavenly/HPs + any HP increases from weapons/frames/shields.

But of course, to reach the true Max HP for a class, you'd have to sacrifice a LOT of capabilities, and equipment and units like Smartlink, V101, BOVN, Mother Garb+, Thirteen, Cure/Unit, etc are WAY to useful to justify dropping them in favor of all HP boosts. Heck, a lot of endgame builds outright IGNORE HP units, because the gains from H/HP at level 20 are just too small compared to other units. It's nice to have good HP units early on (especially with FOs since their defensive power is abysmal in the early levels), but for more optimal late-game calculations a lot of people just go with:

Base HP at level 200 + 125 HP mats

P.S. The only weapon that I know of that gives an increase to HP is the Last Survivor. But it's only a +20 increase that easily gets outgrown, so it's only uses are for the high sword ATP early in Hard (and possibility even V.Hard) and its HP drain special (it's only 30 max HP drain per enemy, but it can hit up to 10 enemies in one swing, so with good ATA and a good combo it adds up in H/early VH).
 
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Awesome guide! I use it regularly.
Thank you for the time you put into figuring all this out.

Any idea how much HP it takes to live from Ult Volt Opt 2nd form's mega death laser to the face?
 
Why would RAcast not be first place overall? If he passes HUcast at Lv. 165, and if 165 to 200 is where over 3/4 of your total EXP on the way to Lv. 200 comes from, then RAcast would be # 1 hands down.

We shouldn't be looking at the linear level path as the actual percentage of progression. For example, Lv. 100 is not halfway to Lv. 200. The halfway point to Lv. 200 is Lv. 183.
 
Linker said:
Awesome guide! I use it regularly.
Thank you for the time you put into figuring all this out.

Any idea how much HP it takes to live from Ult Volt Opt 2nd form's mega death laser to the face?
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I have not done extensive research into it yet. (Don't know if resistances have any effect or not/if it's reducible, etc.)
But short study appears to be 1480hp damage from Vol Opt v2 mega death laser to the face.
 
Ade said:
Why would RAcast not be first place overall? If he passes HUcast at Lv. 165, and if 165 to 200 is where over 3/4 of your total EXP on the way to Lv. 200 comes from, then RAcast would be # 1 hands down.

We shouldn't be looking at the linear level path as the actual percentage of progression. For example, Lv. 100 is not halfway to Lv. 200. The halfway point to Lv. 200 is Lv. 183.
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Sorry this topic sort of slipped my mind.
And no the point of this guide was to show when classes reach certain HP mile marks not their total final hp.

Keep in mind these marks determine more than just a number. They let you know when you'll be able to at least explore an area at least as well without potentially being a burden on others if you play right. I mean are you gonna wanna explore ep4's surface areas without at least 712 hp? A single charge attack from a biter or dorphon before that point will just KO you just in general.
 
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