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and it doesn't need to be like chasing one's tail, that's the trap of the "chicken or the egg" quandary, it doesn't matter which came first, it matters more what the chicken decides to do with it's life

there are no leagues when it comes to philosophy since it's all conjecture. In the end it is similar to religion in that you take what resonates with you and that is what you believe.

However, it's what we then choose to do with it that defines meaning

When we seek out meaning, we are breaking from the conglomeration of random chance to a higher level of existence. And yet the impetus of that breaking away can be the result of random chance.

But there is more to meaning than accidental causation when we can manipulate elements out of their "accidental" chaotic form. We can thus establish purpose through intentional creation

Not necessarily, since even chemical interactions have "meaning" without human extrapolation. And meaning can be derived without intention. The sun's light simply is, and yet it has meaning for plants and animals beyond it's true meaning.

you just Skyrim'd PSO

yes, this is why I want to put my head with yours. Let's yin and yang this out

Mayn is too dark. Plus I haven't seen him on the forums in forevs

I immediately want to hear your voice and see your presence